A Modest Member of Parliament [Bert Kelly], “Government in command? But we’re not at war,” The Australian Financial Review, July 9, 1976, p. 4.

Whenever Jim Cairns found that things were not working out too well when he was a minister, he used to blame “the system.”

He was never specific about exactly what was wrong with it and what he would put in its place, but at least it was nice to know that it wasn’t Jim’s fault, or even Gough’s, but it was the fault of this wretched system.

Mr Hawke was more specific in a recent interview and gave us a clearer picture of what is wrong with the system.

He suggests, in his masterful but muddled manner, that the profit motive will not tell us how we should best arrange our business affairs in the future, and that we would do better to let the Government do it.

Perhaps the Government would not have to make all the decisions, not at the beginning anyway, but if it controls what is called “the commanding heights” of the economy, then it would be more likely that wise decisions would be made to the benefit of the populace.

I guess this is the traditional socialist viewpoint.

Mr Hawke then said that the fact that nations accepted a greater degree of Government intervention in wartime was a clear demonstration that this was the right way to control our economic affairs in peace time too. I quote from the interview:

Private enterprise capitalism is not going to be for all time the best way of organising ourselves. There are better ways. We do not quite understand that the threat we are under now really should teach us at least as starkly as 1940-45 did. If we do not really understand that we need the public mind to direct and regulate it, then we are probably going to be more and more under the threat of extremism from the Left or the Right.

That may not be the most lucid exposition of the socialist position but it is better than I could do across an interviewing table.

But it is not the lack of clarity that is worrying me but what the man means.

First, it is not a sound argument to claim that because in war, with the enemy at the gates, we accepted Government direction for our safety’s sake, then we should do the same in peacetime for the economy’s sake.

The object of the exercise in peacetime is to build a bigger economic cake; and that is a different objective from fighting an enemy.

To claim that we should use the same system to obtain two different results is like saying that because a hard ball is best for cricket, we should also use one for football.

And there is a great difference in the way that people react to Government direction in war and peace.

In war, you have the flame of patriotism to enforce the edicts of the Government.

But even in war it didn’t work too well.

Remember the story of the two doctors in the lounge of a hotel during the war and one saying to the other, “I’ve got three cases of meningitis in my area” and a chap standing behind who wasn’t supposed to be listening, tapping him on the shoulder and whispering, “I’ll take the lot.”

But even if we didn’t have that problem, even if people were always willing to do what the Government ordered, would we by any better off?

Do Governments really know what ought to be done better than people trying to make a quid?

I notice that our best customers for wheat are those whose Governments tell them what to grow and how to grow it.

People seems to have a pathetic belief that Governments know what ought to be done, but the mess the car industry is in is a poor recommendation for that point of view.

Government decisions are made on the advice of civil servants and we should always remember that a civil servant who can correctly foretell the supply and demand situation for any product is not for long working for the Government, he is shortly sitting in the south of France with his feet in a bucket of champagne.

When I had written this I took it to Eccles for his certain appropriation, but I was amazed to find he was all for Mr Hawke’s side. He said cheerfully:

He is a wonderful person. Of course he is talking utter nonsense about Government intervention and all that. But he is quite right when he says we need a new system of government, that we should in the Cabinet wise people from outside politics.

And do you know who Eccles has in mind?

Well, it isn’t me and it isn’t even Mr Hawke.

With a modest blush he told me that he could think of no one more suitable than himself.